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Hang out with Cantor Matt and Cantor Penny as they enjoy a couple of drinks and chat about current issues facing clergy and their roles as Jewish community leaders. They joke and banter in a spontaneous and unscripted discussion. Pull up a barstool and join the conversation!
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Jan 30, 2026
Jan 30, 2026
30 min
Matt & Penny talk about the crazy things that have happened to them while officiating at the many funerals over the course of their careers.

Jun 13, 2025
Jun 13, 2025
30 min
Matt & Penny talk about the VERY WORST THINGS that have happened to them while serving on the pulpit. Not for the squeamish!

Mar 5, 2024
Mar 5, 2024
30 min
Matt & Penny discuss what it's like attending synagogue as "regular people" and what services feel like when you're participating along with everyone else.

May 19, 2022
May 19, 2022
40 min
Matt & Penny sit down with Cantor Barbara Ostfeld, the first woman to be ordained as a cantor in Jewish history, and talk about her experiences and journey that led her to be a pioneer in our profession.

Mar 15, 2022
Mar 15, 2022
31 min
Matt & Penny discuss how to make familiar prayers and blessings more inclusive for everyone, and how gender roles can serve become an obstacle.

Jan 11, 2022
Jan 11, 2022
35 min
Matt & Penny return to the bar and sit down with Cantor/Rabbi Luis Cattan, the current president of the Cantors Assembly. Together they talk about the challenges of his coming to this country and his experiences that prepared him to take on the presidency.

Oct 14, 2021
Oct 14, 2021
44 min
Matt & Penny talk with Cantor Nancy Abramson, the director of the Cantorial School at JTS, about the state of modern cantorial education and how things have changed over the years.

Oct 7, 2021
Oct 7, 2021
44 min
Matt & Penny shamelessly plug Matt's latest book while talking about why the b'nei mitzvah process has remained unchanged for generations and what could be changed.

Jun 2, 2021
Jun 2, 2021
33 min
Matt & Penny talk about taking their first steps out of the pandemic and what changes from the past year that they'd like to keep.
